Thursday, July 2, 2009

You know something that's a lot like torture? TORTURE

2:56 PM me: NPR ombudswoman, Alicia Shepard, who was on Talk of the Nation defending herself against critics like us, just said that it was the job of a responsible news organization to give both sides of the argument and give them equally.
2:57 PM Wow. Boy does that sound wrong.
I thought a journalists responsibility was to find out the truth and report that.
2:58 PM Does the local reporter covering a disaster say, "Well, the story is that management says nothing happened and workers say the factory exploded."? I think the reporter should, you know, report about what happened!!!!
3:02 PM Manny: yeah
3:03 PM me: She writes, "I am shilling for NPR to practice journalism based on putting out reliable information, to the best of its ability -- without taking sides -- so the public can make its own informed decisions."
Again, no mention of such asides as facts or truth
3:05 PM http://www.npr.org/ombudsman/ She keeps refering to her 30 years of journalistic experience as if that
made her defense of bad journalism somehow more credible

14 minutes
3:20 PM Manny: yes, it's all so horrifying I dont know where to start
them? the times?
3:24 PM me: I was in the car in almost physical pain because as I realized what I was listening to I wanted to hear it exactly so I could bitch about about it to you accurately, but it was horrible to hear someone saying those things and I wanted to jump through the radio and punch her.
Manny: is this torture, beeyatch?
Is it?
Dude, they killed 100 people
is waterboarding torture?
Is everything else they were doing?
3:25 PM How do people end up dead if its just harsh interrogation
me: exactly. How would you define me shoving my fist down your throat right now? Some would call this delicious just desserts and others might called it a seriously deserved ass whooping.
3:26 PM Manny: I don't care of Dick and his daughter call it "fluffy puppy tickles."
me: The choice is between enhanced interrogation (read, we tortured their asses) and, ummm, torture.
Manny: you're all monsters
me: yes
3:27 PM Manny: I like greenwald's line: practices that the U.S. government has called torture when done to Americans
me: exactly. Or, how about we call it "doing horrible, ineffective and unjustifiable things to people"
3:28 PM Manny: umm, people we just kinda picked up off the street somewhere
me: and "largely for the purpose of assuaging public opinion and making people imagine that they might somehow be safer in the hands of...torturers"
3:29 PM the tortures
the torturers
ha
Freudian slip
these people are sort of like tortures to me

10 minutes
3:40 PM Manny: yes
they did it
npr let it happen
they know it
me: exactly
Manny: same with the times
same with pretty much everyone but freakin dan froomkin
3:41 PM me: this is what happens when addicts don't know they have a problem, everything is lies and self justification
fortunately, it's totally self destructive
you just have to hope they don't kill too many people on their way down
Manny: what would they be addicted to, in your analogy? being self-important douchebags?
3:43 PM me: basically, yes
3:44 PM they are addicted to a way of being that is self-important and adrenaline rush filled with big big highs and that keep compensating for the lows (until, of course, you bottom out and fail to keep existing--that is crash your car or in this case, the whole premise of your industry)

22 minutes
4:07 PM Manny: they just think they're really awesome
and they go along to get along
and criticize anyone who threatens that

7 minutes
4:14 PM Manny: Also, its well known by now, they changed the legal definition of the word
4:15 PM Why do tyhat, ubless what you're doing meets that definition?

50 minutes
5:05 PM me: why indeed
because you are full of shit and you and everyone knows it but everyone profits as long as no one says elephant

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